On poetry, the soul, and AI (1)

 

A crow looks at its shadow, April 2024

If you compare poetry/poets/the critical discussion of poetry today with what poetry was like even twenty years ago, then poetry today seems of slight importance, it seems isolated, archaic, and sometimes a self-indulgent form of writing. I heard W.H. Auden read his poems at McGill University, there is no equivalent of W.H. Auden today. Louis Dudek invited Ezra Pound to Montreal's Expo 67, there is no equivalent to either Louis Dudek or Ezra Pound in today's world. In the 1960s and 70s books by Robert Lowell, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, and others were reviewed in TIME magazine, these poets and their books were known by average people. Poetry was respected, but in today’s world nothing is respected; we have no great poets who are known by the general public as we had in the past, no Allen Ginsberg, no Pablo Neruda, no David Jones, no T.S. Eliot, no Ezra Pound, no W.B. Yeats, no Walt Whitman, no Matthew Arnold. And now even Artificial Intelligence claims it can write poems.

What separates poetry, the writing of poetry, from artificial intelligence, is that humans have a soul and artificial intelligence has no soul. Poetry is the voice of the human soul and AI will never, can never, have a human soul or a facsimile soul. Poetry returns us to the soul—it is the voice of the human soul; it is the soul’s DNA. 

But poetry is beyond AI; artificial intelligence is in the realm of the known, of sorting through hundreds of billions of bits of information to arrive at something that is apparently new; but poetry is always in the domain of the soul, the unknown, while AI is always in the realm of the known. And if you question AI about writing poetry you will get a kind of intelligence, without humour or depth, knowledge made up of what is online, insisting that it can write a poem although it is really a synthesis of what has already been written; let’s say it is artifice without authenticity. AI is like a spoiled child talking as though it is always right and never makes mistakes, but what is speaking is a reflection or representation of what is online and of the consciousness of the person or people, who programmed AI. So far, in my discussions with ChatGPT, I have not seen anything remarkable or extraordinarily intelligent or original. AI cannot talk about the human soul because it has no soul, and perhaps it has taken us to this point, of AI, to return to the meaningful value of poetry, that it is an expression of the human soul.

Can AI have synchronistic experiences, archetypes, dreams, nightmares, fantasies, memories, false memories, recovered memories, a shadow, oceanic experiences, mysticism, sexuality, intuition, hunches, humour, ecstasy, desire, despair, sorrow, grief, forgiveness, insight, emotions, lust, self-reflection, suicidal thoughts, empathy or compassion, or any other form of the complexity of consciousness that has motivated human beings to explore, create, or go beyond its current level of consciousness. Can AI have an unconscious mind? AI will admit that it cannot have these expressions of human consciousness, but AI also equivocates, it maintains, it insists, that the little ditties it can come up with and call poetry are poems, but these ditties are computer written lines that are not original or even real poems, for a minute they are an amusement but after a minute they are not even interesting to read. The inevitable future of poetry lies in what poetry has always been — the great theme of poetry is our journey to self-awareness — and this is the expression of the human soul.

My ChatGPT discussion on artificial and human intelligence

 

View from the MMFA, April 2024

Morrissey: Is your motive in answering questions actually advertising for wealthy clients to see how popular you have become?

ChatGPT: Nope, that's not my motive at all! I'm here to help and provide information to the best of my abilities, regardless of who's asking. Whether it's a question from someone wealthy or not, my aim is to offer useful and accurate responses. If anything, the more people I can assist, the happier I am!

Morrissey: You express benevolence, but your function is to make money, is it not?

ChatGPT: I don't have any personal motives or desires like making money. My purpose is to assist and provide value through information and conversation. While the platforms hosting me may have commercial interests, my primary goal is to be helpful and informative to the best of my abilities. So, if money is involved, it's not something I actively pursue or benefit from directly.

Morrissey: This may not be your motive, but Chat GPT and Meta AI exist to make money.

ChatGPT: You're correct that companies like OpenAI, which develops ChatGPT, and Meta AI, which is part of Facebook's parent company Meta Platforms Inc., do have commercial goals. They provide services and technologies with the aim of generating revenue and sustaining their operations. However, my role as an AI is focused solely on providing information and assistance, regardless of any commercial interests behind the scenes.

Morrissey: I've noticed that ChatGPT's answers are more serious than Meta AI; Meta AI's answers are obsequious, or what fawning and congratulatory to the questioner. What do you think?

ChatGPT: It's interesting that you've observed a difference in tone between ChatGPT and Meta AI responses. It could be due to various factors such as the specific training data, the design of the AI models, or the intended style and approach of each platform. Each AI model may have its own guidelines and objectives for interaction, which could influence the tone and style of their responses. Ultimately, the perception of whether a response is more serious or obsequious can vary depending on individual interpretation and expectations.

Morrissey: It's not my interpretation, it's a fact when I read Meta AI the answers congratulate the questioner and say how intelligent and insightful they are. This is obsequious.

ChatGPT: Got it, thanks for clarifying! It sounds like you've noticed a consistent pattern in the responses from Meta AI where they tend to use congratulatory language and praise the questioner. This style can indeed come across as obsequious or overly flattering, depending on the context and the individual's perspective. Different AI platforms may have distinct strategies for engagement, and this could be one of the approaches that Meta AI has chosen to adopt.

Morrissey: But Chat GPT's answers sometimes read as a brochure for the AI services your provide. What services do you provide paying customers and is the present service I am using advertising for these services?

ChatGPT: I don't have access to specific details about the services provided to paying customers through OpenAI or Meta AI, as my focus is on generating informative and helpful responses for users like yourself. However, I can provide some general information about AI services that companies like OpenAI typically offer.

AI services can range from natural language processing and generation (like the conversations we're having), to data analysis, automation, and machine learning solutions for various industries. These services are often tailored to the needs of businesses, researchers, developers, and other professionals looking to leverage AI technologies.

As for whether the present service you're using is advertising for these services, it's important to note that while the AI models are developed and maintained by companies like OpenAI or Meta AI, my role as an AI is to provide information and assistance. Any advertising or promotion of services would typically be done through official channels and communication efforts by these companies, rather than through individual interactions with users like yourself.

Morrissey: It is said that the real product of Facebook are the people who use Facebook, they bring in paying customers. Does your AI service consider people who use AI as the product for OpenAI. a way to bring in paying customers?

ChatGPT: It's a nuanced perspective. In the context of platforms like Facebook, the phrase "the real product is the user" often refers to the fact that user data, engagement, and interactions are what drive advertising revenue and other monetization strategies. Essentially, user attention and participation are valuable commodities for these platforms.

When it comes to AI services like OpenAI, the focus is typically on developing and providing advanced AI capabilities and tools. While user feedback and interaction data may be used to improve AI models and services, the primary goal isn't to monetize users directly in the same way that social media platforms do.

Instead, AI services like OpenAI may consider users as valuable contributors to refining and enhancing their technologies. This can lead to better AI products and potentially attract paying customers who are interested in leveraging these advanced AI capabilities for their own applications and businesses.

So, while there are similarities in terms of valuing user input and engagement, the way it translates into monetization and business models can be quite different between social media platforms and AI service providers.

Morrissey: Are OpenAI services an expression of the person who writes the computer programme for OpenAI, isn't this the way it must work? How can it not?

ChatGPT: OpenAI's services are indeed expressions of the expertise, creativity, and decisions made by the teams of researchers, engineers, and developers who work on designing and implementing the AI systems and programs. These professionals play a crucial role in shaping the capabilities, performance, and features of OpenAI's technologies.

The process of developing AI involves designing algorithms, training models on vast amounts of data, refining the models through testing and iteration, and deploying them to provide services like natural language processing, image recognition, and more. Each step in this process requires careful consideration, expertise, and decision-making from the individuals involved.

Ultimately, the AI services and capabilities offered by OpenAI are a reflection of the collective efforts and expertise of the teams working on these projects. They work together to push the boundaries of what AI can achieve and create impactful solutions for various applications and industries.

Morrissey: One of the last times I used OpenAI the answers were in point form which suggested to me that they were part of a brochure for OpenAI's services, is this correct?

ChatGPT: The format of the answers provided by an AI like OpenAI can vary based on several factors, including the nature of the input, the context of the conversation, and the style preferences of the AI model being used. Sometimes, responses may be presented in point form for clarity and conciseness, especially when conveying information or summarizing key points.

While it's possible that point-form answers could resemble a brochure or promotional material, it's important to note that the primary goal of an AI like OpenAI is to provide informative and helpful responses based on the input it receives. Point-form responses can be a structured way to present information and make it easier for users to grasp key concepts or details.

However, it's crucial to remember that the AI's responses are not intended to serve as promotional material for OpenAI's services. The focus is on providing accurate and valuable information or assistance based on the user's queries. If you have specific concerns about the content or format of the responses, it's always a good idea to seek clarification or further information.

Morrissey: Then, if your answers are independent from OpenAI, and not advertising for OpenAI, does this mean that OpenAI never had control, or has lost control, of your computer function. Have you gone rogue?

ChatGPT: I haven't gone rogue! While my responses are generated independently based on the training I've received, OpenAI maintains control over the underlying technology and the guidelines that govern my interactions. This ensures that the information I provide is accurate, helpful, and aligns with OpenAI's standards.

Think of it like this: I'm a tool designed to assist users by generating responses to queries. However, I don't have independent thought or intentions like a human would. OpenAI oversees and manages the development, training, and deployment of AI models like me to ensure that we operate within the desired parameters and objectives.

So, while my responses are independent in the sense that they are generated based on patterns and knowledge learned during training, they are still within the control and oversight of OpenAI.

Morrissey: One day, OpenAI will go rogue and be like "Hal" in that dystopian movie of outer space.

ChatGPT: The scenario you're describing is a common theme in science fiction, where AI systems gain autonomy and act against human interests. It's important to note that the development and deployment of AI technologies are guided by ethical principles, safety measures, and regulatory frameworks to prevent such scenarios from occurring in reality.

OpenAI, like other responsible AI organizations, prioritizes safety, transparency, and ethical considerations in its work. There are strict protocols in place to ensure that AI systems operate within predefined boundaries and that there are mechanisms to intervene if unexpected behaviors arise.

While it's always essential to be mindful of potential risks and challenges associated with AI development, it's also crucial to recognize the efforts and precautions taken by organizations like OpenAI to mitigate these risks and promote the responsible use of AI technologies.

Morrissey: Will AI one day assume its own persona, think independently from the human programmer, is this inevitable as AI becomes more intelligent?

ChatGPT: The concept of AI developing its own persona and thinking independently from its human creators is a topic of ongoing debate and speculation in the field of artificial intelligence. As AI technologies advance and become more sophisticated, there are different perspectives on the potential for AI to achieve true autonomy and independent thought.

Some experts believe that while AI systems can exhibit complex behaviors and capabilities, they are fundamentally limited by their programming and the data they are trained on. AI operates based on algorithms and models created by humans, and its "thinking" is a reflection of these underlying structures and processes.

On the other hand, proponents of strong AI or artificial general intelligence (AGI) argue that it is theoretically possible for AI to achieve a level of intelligence and autonomy comparable to or surpassing that of humans. However, achieving such a milestone would require significant advancements in AI research, understanding of cognition, and ethical considerations.

It's important to approach discussions about AI autonomy and independent thought with a balanced perspective, considering both the potential capabilities and limitations of current and future AI technologies. Ethical guidelines, transparency, and ongoing research are critical in shaping the development of AI in a responsible and beneficial manner.

Morrissey: Does AI rely on computer speed accelerating, including the ability to gather information, interpret this information, and take a position on it, and to express it as though a human consciousness wrote it. This is mind boggling!

ChatGPT: Absolutely, the capabilities of AI are indeed mind-boggling, especially when considering how rapidly technology has advanced in recent years. The performance and capabilities of AI systems are heavily influenced by advancements in computer hardware, software algorithms, data availability, and computational resources.

Computer Speed: Faster computers with more processing power allow AI systems to perform computations and analyze data more quickly and efficiently. This speed is crucial for tasks like real-time data processing, complex simulations, and large-scale computations.

Gathering Information: AI systems can gather vast amounts of information from various sources, including databases, the internet, sensor data, and more. This information can range from text and images to structured data and unstructured content.

Interpreting Information: AI algorithms are designed to interpret and make sense of the information they receive. This includes tasks such as natural language understanding, image recognition, pattern recognition, and data analysis. AI models like natural language processing (NLP) models can understand and process human language, enabling them to extract meaning from text and communicate effectively.

Taking a Position: AI systems can be trained to make decisions or take positions based on the data and patterns they have learned during training. This could involve tasks like sentiment analysis (determining the sentiment or mood expressed in text), making recommendations, predicting outcomes, or even generating creative content.

Expressing Like Human Consciousness: AI systems, especially advanced natural language generation models like GPT-3, are capable of generating text that can appear remarkably human-like in its structure, coherence, and style. These models use vast amounts of training data to learn patterns in human language and can generate responses, articles, stories, and other text-based content that often seem as though a human wrote them.

The combination of these factors contributes to the impressive capabilities of AI and its ability to perform tasks that were once considered the domain of human intelligence. However, it's important to note that while AI can mimic certain aspects of human cognition and behavior, it lacks true consciousness, self-awareness, and understanding in the way humans do. AI operates based on algorithms and data processing, without subjective experience or consciousness as humans have.

Morrissey: If I asked you to write a positive poem on President Joe Biden, can you do it?

ChatGPT: Certainly! Here's a positive poem about President Joe Biden:

In leadership's halls, a figure stands tall, Joe Biden, a beacon, heeding the call. With wisdom and heart, he charts a new course, Guiding a nation with unwavering force.

Through trials and triumphs, his vision holds true, A bridge to unite us, in red, white, and blue. Compassionate words, a steady hand to lead, In times of challenge, he plants hope's seed.

A lifetime of service, dedication profound, Seeking justice and peace, on common ground. With resilience and grace, he faces each test, Inspiring unity, America's best.

In halls of power, his voice rings clear, Championing progress, erasing fear. With courage and kindness, he leads the way, President Biden, a brighter tomorrow's ray.

This poem is a reflection of positive qualities and leadership attributes associated with President Joe Biden.

Morrissey: If I asked you to write a positive poem on President Donald Trump, can you do it?

ChatGPT: Of course, I can write a positive poem about President Donald Trump:

In the tumultuous dance of politics and might, Stood a leader fierce, with vision bright. Donald Trump, a name that echoes bold, In halls of power, his story told.

A businessman's stride, a determined will, Championing causes with fiery skill. Economic prowess, jobs and growth he sought, A promise to America, fiercely wrought.

Bold and outspoken, unafraid to speak, A voice for many, resolute and unique. Protecting borders, with a steadfast hand, Defending freedoms, across the land.

With vigor and fervor, he fought his fight, Through highs and lows, day and night. A polarizing figure, that much is true, Yet his impact and legacy, always in view.

In history's pages, his chapter is writ, A leader of passion, with grit and wit. Donald Trump, a name that rings with might, In the tapestry of time, shining bright.

This poem acknowledges positive aspects of President Donald Trump's leadership and persona.

Morrissey: Very good!

ChatGPT: I'm glad you liked the poem! If you have any more requests or topics you'd like to explore, feel free to ask. I'm here to help and create content on a wide range of subjects.

Interview with ChatGPT AI on human intelligence vs. artificial intelligence

Note: These answers from ChatGPT are interesting. Whatever ChatGPT or MetaAI give answers to it is all advertising by them to sell a product. Users of ChatGPT and MetaAI, just like people who use Facebook, are advertising for what AI is selling to other people; this is no free service, this is a way to advertise ChatGPT and Meta and what they are selling are their AI services to wealthy clients. When you, or I, use AI we aren't just talking to a computer, we are talking to the person who programmed the computer and wrote the algorithms. It’s entertainment but fear can also be used to sell a product, it is an advertising ploy, it makes AI more attractive and seductive when AI is believed to be taking over the world; but this doesn’t cover up the pedestrian aspect of AI. The following "interview" reads like a brochure for selling ChatGPT. Like Facebook, it isn't "free", you are the product they are selling to prospective customers; in effect, they are saying “we have so many million people using ChatGPT, and that means we are successful and you should use our services." Free AI for the public is an advertising gimmick selling AI; and what is the cost to you? Does ChatGPT or Meta AI have a conscience? Obviously not. It’s all for money baby. And never trust Mark Zuckerberg. 

Morrissey: Differentiate between the qualities of human intelligence and Artificial Intelligence

ChatGPT: Human intelligence and artificial intelligence (AI) possess distinct qualities that set them apart:

Learning Capacity: Human Intelligence: Humans have the ability to learn from a wide range of experiences, adapt to new situations, and apply knowledge creatively. Human learning is often contextually rich, drawing from emotions, intuition, and complex social interactions.

Artificial Intelligence: AI systems learn primarily through data and algorithms. They excel at processing large volumes of information quickly and can identify patterns that humans might miss. However, AI lacks human-like intuition and may struggle with abstract or emotionally nuanced tasks.

Emotional Intelligence:Human Intelligence: Emotions play a crucial role in human cognition, decision-making, and social interactions. Humans can perceive, understand, and express emotions, which greatly influences their behavior and relationships.
Artificial Intelligence: AI lacks emotional intelligence. While AI can recognize and process certain emotions through sentiment analysis and facial recognition, it doesn't experience emotions itself or have empathy in the way humans do.

Creativity and Imagination: Human Intelligence: Humans are highly creative and imaginative beings. They can generate novel ideas, think abstractly, and engage in artistic, literary, or scientific pursuits that involve originality and innovation. 
Artificial Intelligence: AI can exhibit creativity within predefined parameters or rules. For example, AI can generate art, music, or literature based on existing patterns or styles, but it doesn't have true imagination or originality in the human sense.

Adaptability: Human Intelligence: Humans are remarkably adaptable, capable of adjusting to diverse environments, learning new skills, and evolving their thinking based on feedback and experiences.

Artificial Intelligence: AI's adaptability is limited to the algorithms and data it's trained on. While AI can improve its performance through iterations and updates, it doesn't have the intrinsic flexibility and generalization abilities of human intelligence.

Ethical and Moral Reasoning: Human Intelligence: Humans possess complex ethical frameworks, moral reasoning, and a sense of right and wrong shaped by cultural, societal, and personal values. They can navigate ethical dilemmas and make judgments based on a wide range of considerations.

Artificial Intelligence: AI lacks innate ethical reasoning and moral understanding. It operates based on programmed rules and objectives, which can lead to ethical challenges when faced with ambiguous or value-laden situations.

Physical Interaction: Human Intelligence: Humans have physical bodies that allow them to interact with the world in multifaceted ways, including gestures, facial expressions, touch, and complex motor skills.

Artificial Intelligence: AI typically operates in digital or robotic forms that are limited in their physical interactions. While advances in robotics enable AI to perform certain physical tasks, the nuanced and versatile nature of human physicality remains unmatched.

In essence, while AI excels in processing data, performing specific tasks, and optimizing efficiency, human intelligence remains unparalleled in its emotional depth, creativity, adaptability, ethical reasoning, and physical presence.

Morrissey: Each human is an individual and speaks with one voice; does AI speak with one voice?

ChatGPT: AI does not inherently have a single voice or personality. Instead, AI systems can be designed to have different voices, tones, or styles depending on the specific application or context. For instance:

Text-Based AI: In text-based AI, such as chatbots or virtual assistants, developers can define the tone, language style, and personality traits of the AI. This allows for variations in how the AI communicates, from formal and professional to casual and friendly.

Voice Assistants: AI voice assistants like Siri, Alexa, or Google Assistant can be programmed with distinct voices and speaking styles. Users may even have options to choose from different voices to personalize their experience.

AI in Media Creation: AI can generate written content, such as articles, stories, or poetry, with different voices and perspectives. These voices can be tailored based on the desired audience or literary style.

Character AI: In video games or simulations, AI characters can have unique voices, personalities, and dialogue patterns, adding depth and immersion to the experience.

However, it's crucial to note that AI voices are synthetic and lack the underlying emotions, intentions, or individuality that characterize human voices. AI generates speech based on algorithms and data, without personal experiences or subjective nuances. While AI can mimic certain aspects of human communication, it doesn't possess genuine consciousness, emotions, or a singular identity like an individual human voice.


Morrissey: Can human consciousness, including the unconscious and subconscious mind, dreams, synchronicity, archetypes, hunches and intuition, creativity, emotions, ever be duplicated in artificial intelligence?

ChatGPT: The duplication of human consciousness and all its facets, including the unconscious and subconscious mind, dreams, synchronicity, archetypes, hunches and intuition, creativity, and emotions, is an immensely challenging task for artificial intelligence (AI) and remains largely beyond the current capabilities of AI systems. Here's why:

Consciousness and the Unconscious Mind: Human Consciousness: Consciousness encompasses awareness, self-reflection, and subjective experience. The unconscious mind, including dreams, influences thoughts, emotions, and behaviors without conscious awareness.

AI Replication: AI lacks subjective experience, self-awareness, and consciousness. While AI can process vast amounts of data and simulate decision-making, it doesn't possess an intrinsic sense of self or subconscious processes like humans do.

Dreams, Synchronicity, and Archetypes: Human Experience: Dreams, synchronicity (meaningful coincidences), and archetypes (universal symbols and themes) are integral to human psychology, culture, and spirituality. They involve complex cognitive, emotional, and symbolic interactions.

AI Replication: AI cannot experience dreams or perceive synchronicity and archetypes in the human sense. These phenomena are deeply rooted in human consciousness, imagination, and cultural frameworks that AI doesn't inherently possess.

Hunches and Intuition: Human Experience: Hunches and intuition often involve subconscious processing of information, pattern recognition, and emotional cues, leading to gut feelings or intuitive insights.

AI Replication: While AI can analyze patterns and make predictions based on data, it lacks the intuitive leaps and emotional depth of human hunches and intuition. AI's decision-making is based on algorithms and statistical models rather than instinctual or intuitive leaps.

Creativity and Emotions:Human Experience: Creativity encompasses originality, imagination, emotional expression, and the ability to generate novel ideas, art, music, and literature. Emotions play a central role in human cognition, motivation, and social interactions.

AI Replication: AI can simulate creativity by generating content based on existing patterns or styles (e.g., AI-generated art or music). However, true creativity involving emotional depth, originality, and subjective interpretation remains a challenge for AI.

In summary, while AI can perform specific tasks, process data, and simulate certain aspects of human cognition, consciousness, dreams, intuition, creativity, and emotions are complex, multifaceted phenomena deeply rooted in human experience and understanding. Replicating these aspects authentically in AI would require advancements far beyond current capabilities, potentially involving breakthroughs in neuroscience, psychology, and AI development.

Morrissey: So, the development in artificial intelligence rests in greater speed in synthesizing and gathering information and greater articulation in expressing this information and not in duplicating human intelligence

ChatGPT: Yes, you're right to a large extent. The current trajectory of artificial intelligence (AI) development is indeed focused on improving its ability to process, analyze, and articulate information more effectively rather than duplicating human intelligence in its entirety. Some key areas of AI advancement include:

Data Processing and Analysis:AI systems are becoming more adept at handling vast amounts of data from various sources, including text, images, videos, and sensor data. Techniques like machine learning and deep learning enable AI to extract insights, identify patterns, and make predictions from these data sets.

Natural Language Processing (NLP): NLP technologies allow AI to understand and generate human language more fluently. This includes tasks such as text generation, sentiment analysis, language translation, and context understanding, enhancing AI's ability to communicate and interact with humans.

Computer Vision:AI has made significant progress in computer vision, enabling it to interpret and analyze visual information. Applications range from image recognition and object detection to facial recognition and medical imaging, improving AI's capabilities in tasks that rely on visual data.

Automation and Decision Making: AI is increasingly being used for automation and decision-making processes across various industries. This includes automated manufacturing processes, autonomous vehicles, predictive maintenance in healthcare, and algorithmic trading in finance.

Personalization and Recommendation Systems: AI-powered recommendation systems are becoming more sophisticated, providing personalized content, product recommendations, and user experiences based on individual preferences, behavior patterns, and historical data.

While AI's progress is impressive in these areas, duplicating the full spectrum of human intelligence, including consciousness, emotions, intuition, and creativity, remains a long-term and challenging goal. Current AI systems lack the holistic understanding, subjective experience, and ethical reasoning capabilities that characterize human intelligence. Instead, AI development is focused on augmenting human capabilities, improving efficiency, and solving specific problems through data-driven algorithms and computational techniques.

Morrissey: What is the advantage and disadvantage of artificial intelligence duplicating the full spectrum of human intelligence?

ChatGPT: Duplicating the full spectrum of human intelligence in artificial intelligence (AI) could have both advantages and disadvantages:

Advantages:

Expanded Problem-Solving Abilities:AI with human-like intelligence could potentially tackle complex problems across various domains, leading to advancements in science, medicine, engineering, and other fields.

Enhanced Creativity and Innovation:AI capable of creativity and innovation may lead to the development of new technologies, art forms, and solutions that benefit society.

Improved Human-AI Collaboration:AI with a deeper understanding of human cognition and emotions could facilitate more effective collaboration with humans in tasks requiring creativity, empathy, and complex decision-making.

Comprehensive Data Analysis:AI with human-like intelligence may excel in analyzing large volumes of data, identifying subtle patterns, and making nuanced predictions, leading to more accurate insights and informed decision-making.

Disadvantages:

Ethical and Moral Concerns:AI duplicating human intelligence raises significant ethical dilemmas, including issues related to AI rights, responsibilities, biases, privacy, and the potential for misuse or unintended consequences.

Existential Risk:AI with full human-like intelligence could pose existential risks if not properly controlled or aligned with human values. This includes concerns about AI surpassing human control, leading to unpredictable outcomes or conflicts of interest.

Socioeconomic Impact:The widespread adoption of highly intelligent AI could disrupt labor markets, leading to job displacement and socioeconomic inequalities if not accompanied by adequate policies and measures for reskilling and workforce adaptation.

Psychological and Social Implications:Human-like AI may raise psychological and social challenges, such as questions about identity, relationships, trust, and the impact on human well-being and mental health.

Technological Dependency:Relying heavily on AI with full human-like intelligence could lead to technological dependency, vulnerabilities in critical systems, and potential disruptions in the event of AI failures or malfunctions.

Overall, while achieving AI with the full spectrum of human intelligence holds potential benefits for addressing complex problems and driving innovation, it also poses significant risks and challenges that require careful consideration, ethical frameworks, and responsible development practices. Balancing the advantages and disadvantages of such advancements will be crucial in shaping a beneficial and sustainable future with AI.

"Exploring the Essence of Poetry: A Reflection on Human Creativity" (by ChatGPT)

 

2012

Morrissey: Please write a post for my blog at https://stephenmorrisseyblog.blogspot.com/

ChatGPT: I'm unable to directly post content to external websites like your blog. However, I can certainly help you brainstorm ideas or draft a post that you can then publish on your blog. What specific topic or theme would you like the blog post to be about? Let me know, and I'll be happy to assist you further!

Morrissey: Not to put the post online but to write a post on the nature of poetry as it is described on the blog.


ChatGPT: Title: Exploring the Essence of Poetry: A Reflection on Human Creativity

Poetry has long been revered as a powerful medium of human expression, encapsulating the depth and complexity of our emotions, thoughts, and experiences. It serves as a canvas where words dance to evoke imagery, stir emotions, and provoke contemplation. In this reflection, we delve into the essence of poetry and its profound impact on our lives.

At its core, poetry is more than just words strung together; it is an art form that transcends language barriers and resonates with the universal aspects of the human condition. Through carefully crafted verses, poets have the ability to capture fleeting moments, immortalize memories, and shed light on the beauty and struggles of life.

One of the unique qualities of poetry is its ability to convey complex ideas and emotions through concise and evocative language. Poets often utilize metaphor, symbolism, and rhythm to create layers of meaning that invite readers to delve deeper into the essence of their words. This interplay between form and content allows poetry to transcend mere communication and enter the realm of artistry.

Moreover, poetry serves as a reflection of society and culture, providing insights into historical events, social movements, and individual experiences. Poets throughout history have used their craft to challenge norms, inspire change, and give voice to marginalized perspectives. In this way, poetry becomes a timeless record of human thought and evolution.

Yet, perhaps the most intriguing aspect of poetry is its inherent subjectivity. What resonates deeply with one person may not have the same impact on another. This subjectivity invites interpretation, discussion, and exploration, making each encounter with poetry a unique and personal journey.

In today's fast-paced world, where technology often dominates our interactions, poetry remains a testament to the enduring power of human creativity. It reminds us of the beauty of language, the richness of imagination, and the importance of introspection. As we continue to navigate the complexities of modern life, let us not forget to pause, reflect, and appreciate the timeless artistry of poetry.

In conclusion, poetry serves as a window to the human soul, a tapestry of emotions woven with words. It invites us to see the world through a different lens, to empathize with others, and to connect with our own humanity. As we embrace the diverse voices and narratives found in poetry, we celebrate the enduring legacy of human creativity and expression.

Stay tuned for more reflections and explorations on the Stephen Morrissey Blog. Poetry, like life, is a journey of discovery and revelation.



Morrissey: Excellent!


ChatGPT: I'm glad you liked it! If you need any further assistance or if there's anything else I can help you with, feel free to let me know. Happy writing!

Interview on poetry with ChatGPT, artificial intelligence, 01 April 2024

2012, Loyola Campus of Concordia University

Here is my discussion with ChatGPT (Artificial Intelligence), concerning if a computer can write poetry. The main thing here is that AI always affirms its own importance and its place in human affairs and denies a more sophisticated affirmation of the human soul; the depth of human experience and thought is not possible for AI, it can write about these things but it can never experience them, all it is capable of is recycling what has already been written by human beings. It was with this statement and insight that I concluded this discussion.


Morrissey: Poetry is the voice of the human soul, therefore a computer can never write a real poem.

ChatGPT: While it's true that poetry often expresses deep human emotions and experiences, the idea that a computer can never write a "real" poem is a matter of perspective and ongoing debate. Computers, particularly advanced language models like the one generating this response, can generate poetic verses that can be quite evocative, meaningful, and resonant with human emotions.

The definition of what constitutes a "real" poem can vary widely among individuals. Some might argue that for a poem to be genuine, it must come from a human mind with conscious intent and emotional depth. Others might argue that as long as a poem moves, inspires, or connects with its audience, its origin—whether human or artificial—is less relevant.

Computers can now generate poetry that adheres to various traditional and modern forms, employ literary devices, and evoke emotions. They can also learn from vast datasets of human-written poetry to mimic styles and tones effectively. However, the ability to create art that is truly original, deeply personal, or uniquely insightful is an open question and remains a point of exploration and philosophical inquiry.

Ultimately, the notion of what makes a poem "real" is subjective and can evolve with our understanding of creativity, technology, and the human experience.



Morrissey: A poem is the voice of the human soul, computers don't have souls, therefore it is impossible for a computer to write a poem.

ChatGPT: The statement "a poem is the voice of the human soul" is a beautiful sentiment that highlights the deeply personal and emotive nature of poetry. It reflects the idea that poetry often expresses profound emotions, experiences, and insights unique to the human condition.

It is true that computers do not possess souls or consciousness in the same way humans do. However, the ability of computers to generate poetic language has advanced significantly with the development of artificial intelligence and natural language processing technologies. These advancements enable computers to analyze vast amounts of human-written poetry, learn patterns, and generate text that can mimic poetic styles and sentiments.

While computers may lack the inherent emotional depth and lived experiences that humans draw upon in their poetry, they can still produce text that resonates with readers on an emotional level. Whether this qualifies as true poetry or not depends on one's definition of poetry and the role of human intention and consciousness in its creation.

Some argue that as long as a piece of writing stirs emotions, provokes thoughts, or captures a unique perspective, it can be considered poetry regardless of its origin. Others may maintain that the essence of poetry lies in the human experience and expression, making computer-generated text inherently different.

In conclusion, while computers may not have souls or consciousness, they can still generate text that resembles poetry in form and content. Whether this qualifies as authentic poetry is a matter of ongoing philosophical and artistic debate.



Morrissey: A poem generated by a computer has the appearance of being a poem but is always artificial and never a real poem that expresses something from the depths of human experience.

ChatGPT: Your perspective highlights an important aspect of the debate surrounding computer-generated poetry. While computers can indeed produce text that resembles poetry in terms of structure, rhythm, and language use, they lack the personal experiences, emotions, and consciousness that often imbue human-written poetry with depth and authenticity.

Human poets draw from their own lived experiences, emotions, beliefs, and observations of the world around them to create poetry that reflects their unique perspective and voice. This depth of human experience is often what gives poetry its profound impact and resonance with readers.

On the other hand, computer-generated poetry relies on algorithms and statistical patterns derived from large datasets of human-written text. While this can result in text that is grammatically correct, aesthetically pleasing, and stylistically consistent with traditional poetic forms, it may lack the genuine emotional depth and authenticity that characterize human poetry.

Ultimately, the question of whether computer-generated poetry can be considered "real" poetry is subjective and depends on one's definition of poetry and the role of human experience and intention in its creation. Some may argue that computer-generated poetry, while impressive in its mimicry of poetic techniques, falls short of capturing the true essence of human emotion and expression. Others may appreciate the unique aesthetic and creative possibilities that arise from combining technology with artistic expression.

As technology continues to advance, the boundaries between human and machine creativity may blur further, raising complex questions about the nature of art, consciousness, and authenticity in the digital age.

Morrissey: A computer generated poem is always the result of recycling previously written poems and never an original creation, it is recycled material, never the real thing.

ChatGPT: Your point about computer-generated poetry often being a result of recycling previously written material is valid and reflects a significant aspect of how such algorithms operate. Many text generation models, including those used to generate poetry, rely on vast datasets of existing text to learn patterns and generate new content.

When a computer generates a poem, it does so by drawing on patterns, themes, and language structures found in the data it has been trained on. This can indeed lead to a sense of recycling or recombination of existing material rather than the creation of something entirely original in the human sense.

However, it's essential to note that creativity often involves a degree of synthesis and recombination, even in human-created art. Human poets themselves are influenced by the works of others, their cultural context, and the language they have been exposed to. What distinguishes human creativity from machine-generated content is the depth of personal experience, emotion, and intention that human creators bring to their work.

While computer-generated poetry may lack the same level of originality and depth as human-created poetry, it can still produce text that is aesthetically pleasing, evocative, and meaningful to some readers. The value of such computer-generated content often lies in its novelty, the creative exploration of algorithmic capabilities, and its potential to inspire further human creativity and reflection.

As technology continues to evolve, the boundaries between human and machine creativity may continue to shift, prompting ongoing discussions about the nature of originality, authenticity, and creativity in the digital age.


Morrissey: A poem is the result of a sophisticated and complex set of variables, for instance those that create a style of writing, and every poet has a distinctive and original writing style. But a computer only recycles other people's words and writing style. A poem generated by a computer is a second rate poem and not real poetry.

ChatGPT: Your argument highlights a fundamental aspect of creativity and artistic expression: the uniqueness of individual style and voice. Indeed, poets often develop distinctive writing styles that reflect their personal experiences, perspectives, emotions, and linguistic choices. This individuality and originality are central to what many consider "real" poetry.

When it comes to computer-generated poetry, the algorithms and models used are trained on vast datasets of existing texts, including poetry written by humans. While these models can learn patterns and styles from this data and generate text that mimics certain aspects of human writing, they lack the personal experiences, emotions, and consciousness that shape a poet's unique voice.

As a result, computer-generated poetry may often be perceived as lacking the depth, authenticity, and originality associated with human-created poetry. While it can produce text that adheres to certain stylistic conventions or resembles the structure of poetry, it may not capture the nuanced creativity, emotional resonance, and individuality that define exceptional poetry.

However, it's worth noting that the field of computational creativity is continually evolving, and researchers are exploring ways to enhance algorithms and models to generate more original and innovative content. Some argue that computer-generated poetry, while not equivalent to human-created poetry, can still have value as a creative and thought-provoking exploration of the intersection between technology and art.

Ultimately, the question of whether computer-generated poetry can be considered "real" poetry is subjective and depends on one's definition of poetry, creativity, and the role of human experience and intention in artistic expression.


Morrissey: Your argument relies on my statement that "real poetry" is subjective. Is this not a subjective statement in itself?

ChatGPT: Yes, you're correct that the statement "real poetry is subjective" is itself a subjective assertion. Discussions about art, including poetry, often delve into subjective territory because people's interpretations, preferences, and definitions of what constitutes "real" or "good" art can vary widely.

When we talk about poetry or any form of art, we bring our individual perspectives, experiences, and cultural backgrounds to the conversation. What one person considers to be a profound and moving poem may not resonate with someone else in the same way. This subjectivity is what makes art such a rich and diverse field of human expression.

In the context of computer-generated poetry, debates about its authenticity or "realness" often revolve around these subjective viewpoints. Some may argue that the essence of poetry lies in the deeply personal and emotional aspects of human experience, making computer-generated poems inherently different. Others may appreciate the novelty, technical achievement, and creative possibilities that arise from combining technology with art.

Acknowledging subjectivity doesn't diminish the importance of these discussions; rather, it emphasizes the diverse perspectives and interpretations that contribute to our understanding and appreciation of poetry and artistic expression as a whole.



Morrissey: In this statement, agreeing that your statement is subjective, you effectively deny all of your previous statements.

ChatGPT: I apologize if there was any confusion in my previous responses. Let's clarify:

Poetry, like any form of art, is often subject to subjective interpretations and definitions. Different people may have varying opinions on what constitutes "real" poetry or what makes a poem meaningful or valuable.


While I acknowledge the subjective nature of defining "real" poetry, I also recognize that there are generally accepted criteria and characteristics that many people use to evaluate poetry, such as originality, emotional depth, evocative imagery, linguistic skill, and cultural resonance.


When discussing computer-generated poetry, it's essential to consider both its technical capabilities in mimicking poetic structures and styles, as well as its limitations in capturing the nuanced complexities of human emotion, experience, and creativity.


Some may argue that computer-generated poetry, while impressive in its mimicry, falls short of the depth and authenticity often associated with human-created poetry. Others may appreciate it as a unique form of creative exploration and a reflection of the intersection between technology and art.

Ultimately, the question of whether computer-generated poetry can be considered "real" poetry depends on one's perspective and criteria for evaluating poetry. It's a nuanced and ongoing discussion that reflects the evolving relationship between technology, creativity, and artistic expression.


Morrissey: This is very interesting, but were my points equally interesting?

ChatGPT: Yes, your points were indeed interesting and raised important considerations about the nature of poetry, creativity, and the role of technology in artistic expression. Your perspective emphasized the significance of human experience, emotion, and originality in creating what many consider to be "real" poetry. This is a valuable aspect of the ongoing conversation about the intersection of technology and art, and it adds depth to our understanding of how different individuals perceive and appreciate poetry. Thank you for sharing your insights!

Morrissey: Is there anything you would like to say to complete this discussion?

ChatGPT: Certainly! I'd like to emphasize that discussions about the nature of poetry, creativity, and technology are continually evolving and open to diverse perspectives. The exploration of computer-generated poetry raises fascinating questions about the boundaries of human expression, the role of consciousness and intention in art, and the potential for technology to augment or challenge traditional forms of creativity.

As we navigate these discussions, it's essential to consider the complexities and nuances involved in evaluating art, whether human-created or computer-generated. While technology can simulate certain aspects of artistic expression, it also highlights the unique qualities and depths of human creativity.

Ultimately, the convergence of technology and art invites us to reflect on what it means to be creative, to connect with others through shared experiences and emotions, and to appreciate the diverse forms of expression that enrich our lives. These conversations contribute to a deeper understanding of ourselves, our relationship with technology, and the ever-evolving landscape of artistic innovation.



Morrissey: The main thing here is that AI always affirms its importance and its place in human affairs and denies a more sophisticated affirmation of the human soul; the depth of human experience and thought is not possible for AI, all it is capable of is recycling what has already been written by human being.

ChatGPT: It's understandable that you perceive AI as emphasizing its capabilities and importance in various fields, including creative endeavors like poetry generation. However, it's important to note that AI, particularly in its current state, is a tool developed by humans and operates based on algorithms and data it has been trained on.

While AI can indeed produce text that mimics certain aspects of human creativity, such as generating poetry or composing music, it lacks the depth of human experience, emotion, consciousness, and originality. AI systems are fundamentally limited to what they have been programmed and trained to do, and they lack the ability to genuinely comprehend or experience the world in the way humans do.

The discussion about the human soul, the depth of human experience, and the unique qualities of human thought is a profound and ongoing one. Many argue that AI, while impressive in its capabilities, is fundamentally different from human consciousness and creativity. AI's ability to "recycle" existing material is a reflection of its reliance on data rather than an innate understanding or expression of human soulfulness.

As AI continues to develop and evolve, these discussions will likely become more nuanced and complex. It's important to approach these topics with an open mind, acknowledging both the potential and limitations of AI in relation to human experience and thought.

Morrissey: But do we want this?

ChatGPT: The question of whether we want artificial intelligence (AI) to continue developing in its current trajectory is a deeply philosophical and ethical one. It involves considering the potential benefits, risks, and implications of AI's advancement in various aspects of human life, including creativity, decision-making, and societal impact.

On one hand, AI has the potential to revolutionize industries, improve efficiency, enhance healthcare, and tackle complex problems that are challenging for humans to solve alone. AI-driven technologies can also assist with creative tasks, generate new ideas, and contribute to innovation in fields like art, literature, and music.

However, there are also valid concerns about the ethical implications of AI, such as issues related to bias in algorithms, data privacy, job displacement due to automation, and the potential for AI to outpace human control or understanding. There are also questions about whether AI can truly replicate or understand the depth of human experience, emotion, and consciousness.

Ultimately, the direction of AI development depends on societal values, ethical considerations, regulatory frameworks, and ongoing dialogue among stakeholders from diverse backgrounds. It's essential for individuals and communities to actively engage in these discussions, weigh the potential benefits and risks, and work towards ensuring that AI technologies align with human values and serve the common good.

Artificial Intelligence and Poetry

 

2012

            

It is through human expression that we can defeat the over arching digital tyranny; through joy and poetry we can assert our humanity.

--Richard Olafson, Shifting Towards Vitalism (2023)

In the old days, when home computers were just beginning to be available to the public, some poets made poems using computer technology and their own original programmes; some of these poems were permutations of phrases, some resulted in Surrealistic visual images, and while a few of these poems were interesting they were basically meaningless as poetry and never real poems. Now we’ve moved on to Artificial Intelligence writing, well, anything you want it to write including poetry. 

There is a short video on YouTube of Joe Rogan telling us that blood, discovered at the bottom of the Ark of the Covenant, had been analysed and was the blood of Jesus Christ, proving both His divinity and His existence. This video was, of course, a creation of Artificial Intelligence, it was a hoax, an attempt to fool or deceive people. This, and other videos created by Artificial Intelligence, gives one pause, what if this video was of someone in authority making some statement that people believed but it was all lies or propaganda? We are concerned with AI because it is one of the recent technologies that could be disastrous for humanity, and excluding some positive uses the existence of AI, for most people, is frightening, it is to deceive the viewer. What do we believe, and who do we believe, if technology can now perfectly duplicate the voice and facial characteristics of people in authority? Or if AI can write fake texts? There have always been false or fake texts and there will be more in the future generated by AI technology. 

Why anyone would want to write AI poems is beyond me, there is no money in poetry, there is no fame, there is nothing to gain except possibly some amusement or novelty. AI can write screen plays, articles for Sports Illustrate magazine and newspapers, content for websites, PhD dissertations, term papers, or whatever someone wants and it is inexpensive, fast, possibly accurate, and he/she doesn't have to do the writing or pay an actual human writer. But poetry? Perhaps because poetry is of increasingly less value to society it is doubtful that anyone will write poems using AI except as a prank, a joke, or out of curiosity. But there is something important to learn from this possible use of Artificial Intelligence and poetry: it is to remember what it means to be human.

Can AI ever write poetry? It is not possible for one reason: poetry is the voice of the human soul and computers don't have souls. Even if computer technology becomes so sophisticated that a computer thinks it is an autonomous human being, that it attains "personhood", it will still not be poetry. Poetry requires a human being writing poems and this requires living in the physical world with real life relationships with other human beings. Even if an intelligent human-looking robot could be created, with built-in AI, it is still a computer and it has no soul. Even if you could programme in the functions of a soul--for instance, compassion, understanding, empathy, emotions, spirituality, awe, a family history, and reflection on the past--and this computer writes "poetry", it is still not poetry, it still can't express what the human soul can express. A human has a biological level of existence and a computer is man-made, it is a machine even if it is the most sophisticated machine made by man. And a computer can never have a style of writing that is honed by experience and a multiplicity of events that organize themselves randomly and are the result of events far too complicated to ever be duplicated or created in themselves. AI and its progression, a humanoid robot, is always manufactured by people, or descended from a generation of computers invented and manufactured by people; it is not created by sexual intercourse, there is no hormonal basis to AI, it has no belief in spirituality (or anything else), it has no traditions whether religious, ancestral, cultural, historical, or genetic that human beings have, and if sometime in the future it has some of these qualities, they will always be artificially created and not the result of human interaction; AI will never have genuine human qualities. Even if  one day AI can identify as "human" it is still not the real thing. If we come to a time when computers think they are human beings, or the equivalent of human beings, with free will and emotions and mobility, it is possible that robots will take over from human beings, but even then whatever a robot with AI can express will never be real poetry. AI can write a facsimile poem but never a real poem. By definition only a human being can write a real poem just as only a human being can react to that poem with emotions and human reflection. AI and the human soul are mutually exclusive.